[Linux-HA] Drac5 / Stonith Question

[Alan Robertson]

Dejan Muhamedagic wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 06:33:47AM -0600, Dave Blaschke wrote:
>> Dejan Muhamedagic wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 12:50:36PM -0700, Ryan Kish wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Hello HA Guru's.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to setup stonith on two Dell PE2950's with Drac5 cards. I am
>>>> currently using SLES 10 sp1, and the Heartbeat provided by Suse 
>>>> (2.0.8-0.19).
>>>> However it only has support for Drac3 cards.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I did some searching and found a couple references to
>>>> stonith/drac5 on this list.  The best/ most complete posting being here:
>>>> http://lists.community.tummy.com/pipermail/linux-ha/2007-May/025175.html
>>>>
>>>> Fortunately Thomas was kind enough to leave a link to his modified source
>>>> code in the posting. I hoped due to the age of the post (almost 1yr) that
>>>> this module may be found in the newer source trees. However it does not
>>>> appear to be there.
>>>>     
>>> It's not. Don't know what happened.
>>>   
>> Unfortunately, what usually happens is that someone comes up with a cool 
>> new plugin worthy of inclusion, Alan requests a written sign-off from that 
>> someone's employer, and ... nothing.  Here's a snippet from near the end of 
>> the Drac5 conversation back in last May (>> is Dejan, > is Alan):
>>
>>>> Thanks for the contribution! Alan will probably want to the usual
>>>> legal chanting.
>>> I'll send you an email on this.
>>>
>> I have never seen the legal "form" pertaining to this, but perhaps we could 
>> include a printable copy up on the web site to make things easier, or even 
>> better, make it so that it can be signed electronically.
> 
> This is a good idea. Somehow, when it comes to this point, the
> communication often fails. Perhaps making it more straightforward
> would help. Alan: Is it possible to make such a form?

It can't be done by a form, as far as I know.  It would be possible to 
have the suggested text available on the web site.  I need an email from 
their boss, with the usual sets of headers authenticating its origin. 
Since there is no universal way of identifying people, this is 
considered sufficient due diligence - and if it isn't right, then 
someone defrauded us, and we can't be held responsible for people who lie.

I need to be able to state that I know where every contribution came 
from, and that for each and every one I have an email that gives us 
permission to use it.

I don't read every posting on the mailing lists.  If no one brings it to 
my attention, then I don't know to send it to them.

However, in the majority of the cases, when I _do_ send it to people it 
is typically delayed for months, and in maybe half of the cases, I never 
receive a reply at all.

This is the problem ultimately.  The reason why people don't send it 
back varies, they don't want to talk to their boss about it, or more 
commonly, their boss doesn't want to "risk" giving their permission.

Without their permission, we can't include it officially.

We need to know two things basically:
	Is this your original work?
	Does your employer agree to have it become part of the
		project?

If you are unemployed, then you can state that.  If you own your own 
company, then state that.

However, it doesn't matter if you don't have an intellectual property 
agreement with your employer that would require you to do this.  Get a 
letter from them anyway.


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     Alan Robertson <alanr at unix.sh>

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